TheCzarsHussar Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Just now, BigBossBalrog said: My favorite boss fight is the next big one after the Fire Giant Which big one? Hidden one main boss of the area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheCzarsHussar said: Which big one? Hidden one main boss of the area O...death become my blade once more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: Hide contents O...death become my blade once more. Definitely a top tier boss, but I feel like they crippled him by starting the real battle at half hp. This is the thing ALL demigods feared more than anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Hey @The Good Doctor, I'm going to make your life easier. Make sure you have a Sentries' Torch before tackling Ordina It's agony enough for melee characters with a torch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, TheCzarsHussar said: Hey @The Good Doctor, I'm going to make your life easier. Make sure you have a Sentries' Torch before tackling Ordina It's agony enough for melee characters with a torch Is that the one that reveals invisible enemies? If so, I got it. 1 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: Is that the one that reveals invisible enemies? If so, I got it. That it is, good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Whats your thought on Snowfield and Mountaintops? I loved the areas visually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Also, if you never encountered anything on the frozen lake before the Fire Giant Doc, you missed something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, TheCzarsHussar said: Whats your thought on Snowfield and Mountaintops? I loved the areas visually. So do I. My only complaint is the dang stormhawks. But thankfully they’re not overly common. All-in-all it’s a really cool late game area. I actually like how it remains huge and open, but uses verticality to be a little more linear than prior areas so you always feel like you're moving forward like in the old games. I haven’t explored the Snowfield very thoroughly. Found the map, a couple graces, and a location or two, but I was mostly just scouting it out for later. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, TheCzarsHussar said: Also, if you never encountered anything on the frozen lake before the Fire Giant Doc, you missed something The dragon? Yeah, I got him. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 1 hour ago, The Good Doctor said: Reveal hidden contents The dragon? Yeah, I got him. That's not the best dragon fight me and Balrog are hyping, but it's the best of the generic clone-dragons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Fire Giant is dead. Man, that was a cool fight. 1 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: Fire Giant is dead. Man, that was a cool fight. Good shit, you've reached the point of no return. Honestly I agree with Balrog, save the Flames of Frenzy for playthrough 2, but still explore past Mohg the Clone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 (edited) I forgot to mention it, but when me and Nick were hosting 2v2's a few days ago, I had the weirdest glitch happen to me. I did this weapon art that blows a barrage of very dangerous bubbles (real shit, almost 1 shots if everything hits) and it kept visually shooting out constantly without a hitbox. Edited April 17, 2022 by TheCzarsHussar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Good Doctor Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 So what was Mohg’s plan? Like, I get that the god/consort dynamic is important in this universe, and that powers and achievements can seemingly be shared between them (Marika/Radagon/Godrey, the Tarnished/Raani, etc) but do we know what Mohg was trying to do with that power? He wanted to become lord, of course, but presumably he had a vision for the world under his lordship just like the various tarnished do. Also, just a thought. So we don’t know if Marika and Radagon were always the same person or became the same after their "marriage". What if it actually is the latter, and that is what Mohg is attempting to imitate with Miquella? Marry him, join with him, be a god. But because Miquella (unlike Marika) is weaker and in a comatosa state, Mohg might emerge as the dominant figure. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: Reveal hidden contents So what was Mohg’s plan? Like, I get that the god/consort dynamic is important in this universe, and that powers and achievements can seemingly be shared between them (Marika/Radagon/Godrey, the Tarnished/Raani, etc) but do we know what Mohg was trying to do with that power? He wanted to become lord, of course, but presumably he had a vision for the world under his lordship just like the various tarnished do. Also, just a thought. So we don’t know if Marika and Radagon were always the same person or became the same after their "marriage". What if it actually is the latter, and that is what Mohg is attempting to imitate with Miquella? Marry him, join with him, be a god. But because Miquella (unlike Marika) is weaker and in a comatosa state, Mohg might emerge as the dominant figure. I think Mohg graduated from the god-school Zeus came from; "I want to be a fucking creep who has a boy toy" But to be serious, before answering your question, have you come across descriptions and texts, Referencing the Outer God's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 14 hours ago, TheCzarsHussar said: Good shit, you've reached the point of no return. In that case, I’m gonna pump the breaks and go do some other stuff. I’m thinking I’ll explore the sewers and the Consecrated Snowfield some more before I lock myself out of anything. 1 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Come to think of it, Mohg reminds me of the story of the abduction of Ganymede from Greek Mythology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Just now, BigBossBalrog said: I think Mohg graduated from the god-school Zeus came from; "I want to be a fucking creep who has a boy toy" But to be serious, before answering your question, have you come across descriptions and texts, Hide contents Referencing the Outer God's? A few. There have been mentions of a Formless Mother, a god of rot, and I believe something to do with the blood stuff as well. I also killed a blood build samurai whose equipment said he was the greatest swordsman in the land and that he met Mohg, fought him, and then basically "sold his soul" to him for power, becoming a demon of the sword. Definitely seeing where you got the Satan vibes. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 Wait, I remember now. The Formless Mother is the "blood god", because it says in one of Mohg’s incantation descriptions that the mechanic behind his blood magic is literally tearing wounds into the Formless Mother and spraying you with her blood. Which is fucking gnarly. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: Hide contents A few. There have been mentions of a Formless Mother, a god of rot, and I believe something to do with the blood stuff as well. I also killed a blood build samurai whose equipment said he was the greatest swordsman in the land and that he met Mohg, fought him, and then basically "sold his soul" to him for power, becoming a demon of the sword. Definitely seeing where you got the Satan vibes. Not to spoil some other lore revelations, but it's outright told that the various ages of the world are ruled by a "God and there consorts" empowered by an Outer God, who is granted divine worship through there proxies, and hence power . A few of them are stated in the next few stones so I wont specify who, but the Outer God's are quite remicent of the Great Ones from Bloodborne, and they have servants and envoys clashing with each other in the Lands Between trying to claim that dynmaic. Mohg wants to seize the Throne of his mother, marry Miquella, and rule a new Age of Blood under the grace of the Formless Mother, as his Mogwyn Dynasty flourishes. For all of his nightmarish horror, the dude certainly has ambition and drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 15 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: Hide contents the Outer God's are quite remicent of the Great Ones from Bloodborne, and they have servants and envoys clashing with each other in the Lands Between trying to claim that dynmaic. And I suppose the Greater Will comes from one of these gods as well. To be honest, I almost get a more traditional, almost "Christian" vibe from this than I do a Lovecraftian one. Not in a 1-1 way, of course, but the unseen "greater powers and principalities" from beyond our world/dimension (like Heaven and Hell) who influence through miracles and proxies and establish the rules of the world seems waaaay more familiar than the completely incomprehensible yet (occasionally) physically present "gods" (aliens) of Bloodborne. This seems doubly true considering the cosmology is definitely not your typical "spinning ball in the vacuum of space" and so the "outer gods" are not literal space aliens like many of Lovecraft’s deities. The Golden Order has prayerbooks and "Bible" similarities. Incantations are literal miracles that you cannot bring about without faith. Heretical incantations are the same, but through powers that Golden Order adherents would consider demonic or blasphemous, like Mogh and the Formless Mother. Heck, creepy as they are, the Two Fingers could even be compared to angels. These forces are very direct and involved and seem to have relatively clear and understandable positions. Not like the Great Ones who were completely alien by design. 2 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 45 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: Hide contents And I suppose the Greater Will comes from one of these gods as well. To be honest, I almost get a more traditional, almost "Christian" vibe from this than I do a Lovecraftian one. Not in a 1-1 way, of course, but the unseen "greater powers and principalities" from beyond our world/dimension (like Heaven and Hell) who influence through miracles and proxies and establish the rules of the world seems waaaay more familiar than the completely incomprehensible yet (occasionally) physically present "gods" (aliens) of Bloodborne. This seems doubly true considering the cosmology is definitely not your typical "spinning ball in the vacuum of space" and so the "outer gods" are not literal space aliens like many of Lovecraft’s deities. The Golden Order has prayerbooks and "Bible" similarities. Incantations are literal miracles that you cannot bring about without faith. Heretical incantations are the same, but through powers that Golden Order adherents would consider demonic or blasphemous, like Mogh and the Formless Mother. Heck, creepy as they are, the Two Fingers could even be compared to angels. These forces are very direct and involved and seem to have relatively clear and understandable positions. Not like the Great Ones who were completely alien by design. The Greater Will is an Outter God, the fingers are their envoys and doubly act almost like biological antennas, communicating/communing with their god. The Greater Will put all it's enemies to the sword or converted them. Giants now well and truly extinct, as is their god of flame, dragons all either converted or dead, Godskin Apostles which once could have killed even the Greater Will with their black flames now are near powerless. The Tarnished's entire journey is really reestablishing the Greater Will's order of the world after Marika went and suplexed the Elden Ring. The Two Fingers are absolutely shocked that we were spurned by the Erdtree, it was not in the plan, or at least they've been out of contact with their god for so long. There's so very much of the Greater Will you won't know about until you...listen to Shabriri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted April 17, 2022 Share Posted April 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, TheCzarsHussar said: Hide contents There's so very much of the Greater Will you won't know about until you...listen to Shabriri Sounds like we’re due another chat. Although, I’m not sure I’ll be convinced that the murderous body-snatcher who constantly shouts "LET CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD" is going to be the best source for good, unbiased… sane information. 27 minutes ago, TheCzarsHussar said: The Greater Will put all it's enemies to the sword or converted them. Giants now well and truly extinct, as is their god of flame, dragons all either converted or dead, Godskin Apostles which once could have killed even the Greater Will with their black flames now are near powerless. The Tarnished's entire journey is really reestablishing the Greater Will's order of the world after Marika went and suplexed the Elden Ring. Well giants and dragons seem violent and hostile and the Godskins are downright horrific, so that all sounds good to me. Cleaving down the last vestiges of ancient world craziness seems like a small price to pay for millennia of peace, order, and stability. Also reinforces my belief that this whole world feels more Biblical than Lovecraftian. Like the tribes of Israel destroying the enemy nations in the lands of Canaan in the name of God. That’s not the sort of thing you’d see Bloodborne deities. This "god" has a will that is reflected in the world. It’s even in the name: "Greater Will". 1 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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