The Good Doctor Posted July 22, 2022 Author Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Celan said: House isn't really interested in world building. He wants the Strip and the moon, and I figure, he can have those. I'd rather not manage that drunk den anyway. The Courier is still there and can work on development in the outer communities which is where most of the people live. And, she knows where House lives, if he gets uppity. As his trusted lieutenant, she would still have access. I do dislike his treatment of the Kings, and that you can't convince him they can be made into allies. I think House’s ambitions necessarily go way beyond Vegas. It’s just his launching point for much bigger plans. In his own words, it will be "the remedy for mankind's derailment". He isn’t just out to build casinos and visit Mars; he wants to restore humanity. Part of his plan is to reignite America’s technology sector; that’s not something that can be done through Vegas alone. And I think there are a lot of steps between securing Vegas and taking to the stars. 1 hour ago, Celan said: And, she knows where House lives, if he gets uppity Until she inevitably dies. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celan Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 19 hours ago, The Good Doctor said: I think House’s ambitions necessarily go way beyond Vegas. It’s just his launching point for much bigger plans. In his own words, it will be "the remedy for mankind's derailment". He isn’t just out to build casinos and visit Mars; he wants to restore humanity. Part of his plan is to reignite America’s technology sector; that’s not something that can be done through Vegas alone. And I think there are a lot of steps between securing Vegas and taking to the stars. Until she inevitably dies. Possibly, but he can't do any of that without proxies. He is still quite limited. The Courier dying while sole ruler of the Mojave is a much bigger risk in Indy. Anyway, you guys are making me nostalgic for FNV, but pretty sure it's not going to run on a modern PC any better than FO3 does. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, Celan said: Possibly, but he can't do any of that without proxies. He is still quite limited. The Courier dying while sole ruler of the Mojave is a much bigger risk in Indy. Anyway, you guys are making me nostalgic for FNV, but pretty sure it's not going to run on a modern PC any better than FO3 does. Indeed. Luckily, House is a billionaire with an army so proxies are easy to get ahold of. Once he’s secured Hoover Dam, he’s in a prime position for exponential growth. It’s not like before where he had to keep things close to his chest to avoid bringing the NCR down on him. I think Indy is a much riskier route in general. But the hope is that whatever the Courier helps build will be capable of sustaining itself even when he has died or passed the torch. You should be fine on a modern PC. Between the two, Fallout 3 is infamously harder to make work anymore. So much so that most people on forums will recommend that you just install New Vegas with the "Tale of Two Wastelands" mod (which brings FO3 over to FNV) and play FO3 that way. It’s a better experience all around because it also brings over some of the mechanical improvements FNV made like iron sights and ammo types. 1 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celan Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Not sure, FNV wasn't especially stable before. I get so tired of fighting Bethesda's engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, Celan said: Not sure, FNV wasn't especially stable before. I get so tired of fighting Bethesda's engine. FNV is rough but playable and relatively easy to fix. I haven’t played FO3 on PC in years, so take this with a grain of salt, but from what I gather reading online, something happened that made it basically unplayable anymore without a whole lot of work. That’s why it’s become so popular to run it through FNV instead. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 21 hours ago, Celan said: House isn't really interested in world building. He wants the Strip and the moon, and I figure, he can have those. I'd rather not manage that drunk den anyway. The Courier is still there and can work on development in the outer communities which is where most of the people live. And, she knows where House lives, if he gets uppity. As his trusted lieutenant, she would still have access. I do dislike his treatment of the Kings, and that you can't convince him they can be made into allies. Realistically I'd say you should have been able to but I guess they needed to show consequences of your choice. For all we know you very well could soften his edge. Or, he puts you in check and kills people anyway lol who knows I felt like your position was mainly right hand so in the end what he says goes, and sure you could pull the plug whenever you like, but then who would kill the golden boy with the ticket to future flying cars and colonies on mars to save the kings after you missed your shot to use Yes Man. 1 "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 Honestly if this were real life I'd probably just let house handle propelling the world to the future and live like a king... its the end of the world after all and that gives you drinks, good food, ish, and whores. What more do you want lol I can live with the Kings dying in that case But this is a videogame and I liked my power fantasy and being at the top without the weird dick in the box bossing me around lol. 1 "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celan Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 I get it, I'm sure that's why Indy is so popular, and secondly people just default to NCR as the "good guys" (*cough*notsomuch*cough). I really really like Ulysses' role in the story either way, showing that like you he kept looking for something better and was always disappointed, but you can convince him that you have to try again. This is why I had liked the game, but after the DLCs considered it a masterpiece. FNV will always show how DLCs should be done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celan Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 57 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: FNV is rough but playable and relatively easy to fix. I haven’t played FO3 on PC in years, so take this with a grain of salt, but from what I gather reading online, something happened that made it basically unplayable anymore without a whole lot of work. That’s why it’s become so popular to run it through FNV instead. Okay, you convinced me. Though I don't have a lot of time for vidya anyway between trying to keep the world supplied in glue, and trying to take IT courses so I don't have to keep doing this shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 thats what happened with me trying to run fnv actually, i kept getting an error about it and even starting fresh with no mods didnt work, shrug I got zos'd. 1 "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, The Good Doctor said: FNV is rough but playable and relatively easy to fix. I haven’t played FO3 on PC in years, so take this with a grain of salt, but from what I gather reading online, something happened that made it basically unplayable anymore without a whole lot of work. That’s why it’s become so popular to run it through FNV instead. It used to run on Windows horrible Games on Windows and when that service shut down Bethesda was forced to port it to steam...and they did almost zero effort and as a result it barely runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, ColonelKillaBee said: Or, he puts you in check and kills people anyway lol who knows That seems more like House to be honest. In fact, JE Sawyer talked about this when asked why we couldn’t get House to spare the BoS. His response was that they originally planned to, but they cut it early in development because the whole point of House is that he absolutely believes he knows best. And that not even the Courier can convince this guy who singlehandedly built RobCo, saved Vegas, and came up with a plan to beat the NCR that we know better than he does. 1 hour ago, ColonelKillaBee said: Honestly if this were real life I'd probably just let house handle propelling the world to the future and live like a king... its the end of the world after all and that gives you drinks, good food, ish, and whores. That’s how I see it. If you want the ending that is best for the Courier personally, damn everybody else, the House is by far the best. He basically lets you live like a king in a world where most people struggle to even find clean water. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Celan said: I get it, I'm sure that's why Indy is so popular, and secondly people just default to NCR as the "good guys" (*cough*notsomuch*cough). I feel like that happened mainly because the NCR are the only faction who you can get nothing but "positive" ending slides for, never mind that the slides don’t paint a full picture. So then you got a bunch of YouTube videos titled "How to get the BEST ENDING in New Vegas!!!" that had all the sheep thinking NCR are the only correct choice. 1 hour ago, Celan said: I really really like Ulysses' role in the story either way, showing that like you he kept looking for something better and was always disappointed, but you can convince him that you have to try again. Ditto. It kind of bugs me that so many people see Ulysses as evidence why all the endings suck and the story of New Vegas is a cynical and doomed one. I feel it’s the exact opposite. The whole point is that Ulysses is the antagonist, and as the hero it’s your job to prove him wrong. But I loved having an ultimate villain who has a larger "plan" for the region based on how jaded he has become with all the choices, but at the same time has a personal frustration with our character for experiencing just as much as he did and not arriving at the same conclusion. 1 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celan Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 2 hours ago, The Good Doctor said: That seems more like House to be honest. In fact, JE Sawyer talked about this when asked why we couldn’t get House to spare the BoS. His response was that they originally planned to, but they cut it early in development because the whole point of House is that he absolutely believes he knows best. And that not even the Courier can convince this guy who singlehandedly built RobCo, saved Vegas, and came up with a plan to beat the NCR that we know better than he does. That’s how I see it. If you want the ending that is best for the Courier personally, damn everybody else, the House is by far the best. He basically lets you live like a king in a world where most people struggle to even find clean water. That's not why I spare him, though- not at all. The technological sector does need to start up if people are to have clean water, for instance. And the Courier can work to ensure that's what it's used for. Killing the man who saved Vegas once just doesn't make sense to me. Also, a technocratic libertarian is pretty much my idea of a perfect ruler. But I guess we've said enough about that. Like I said, it was the story arc that seemed most compelling to me, and roleplay wise it does come from that interaction with Ulysses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted July 23, 2022 Author Share Posted July 23, 2022 Just now, Celan said: That's not why I spare him, though- not at all. Me neither, usually. I was just pointing out that on top of all other moral or utilitarian arguments that can be made in favor of Mr. House, he does also present the Courier with the best deal for themselves personally. It’s a cherry on top if you’re roleplaying as someone who cares about that. 1 * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 I always thought it's kinda scary to have a techno lich ruling with an army of mega robots who could eventually turn into some kind of literal monster in a police state worst then Big Brother but its a more simple and dumb opinion then all of ya'll measured responses 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: techno lich I love it. This feels weirdly appropriate in the same way that Ulysses comparing the Think Tank to an ancient pantheon of gods did. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celan Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Ugh... fighting with NVSE since it can't find a game file that's not in the C drive, apparently. PC master dumb race 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celan Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Someone did sexy fan art of two of my favorite nomads from Cyberpunk 2077- my new desktop. You guys probably won't appreciate these as much as I do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted July 24, 2022 Author Share Posted July 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Celan said: Ugh... fighting with NVSE since it can't find a game file that's not in the C drive, apparently. PC master dumb race This is why even after getting a PC that can run a few games, I usually stick to Xbox. I’m literally too retarded to understand what this even means. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 2 hours ago, The Good Doctor said: This is why even after getting a PC that can run a few games, I usually stick to Xbox. I’m literally too retarded to understand what this even means. NVSE is that mod you need for certain more advanced mods to recognize animations and other shit. hers isn’t recognizing anything outside of her c drive which I assume is her main SSD drive. 1 "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 Skyrims equivalent is SKSE "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celan Posted July 24, 2022 Share Posted July 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, ColonelKillaBee said: NVSE is that mod you need for certain more advanced mods to recognize animations and other shit. hers isn’t recognizing anything outside of her c drive which I assume is her main SSD drive. Indeed. I was stupid when I bought this new computer and got a small SSD, so my C drive will be too full if I put many games in there. I'm putting them in the SATA D drive, generally games are stored in the C drive (which is where the computer boots from and stores essential programs) and apparently mod authors didn't think someone might put game files in a different drive?? Idk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Good Doctor Posted July 25, 2022 Author Share Posted July 25, 2022 @ColonelKillaBee There is a new lore tidbit in the recent ESO expansion that says the old Yokudan word for "elf" derives from an even older word simply meaning "enemy". The sources implies that the Lefthanded Elves they wiped out might not have even been true elves, as the Yokudans may not have even known what elves were back then. The word would have been used for all sorts of enemies, including human ones. * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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