The Good Doctor Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 minute ago, ColonelKillaBee said: Not a huge deal, I’ll just stick to noob weapons. Though I feel like certain weapons literally need it like the energy sword to even function, or the gravity hammer Even if guns don’t, I bet those will still have it. It was basically a feature of the weapon. Otherwise the lunging would be really weird. It's always nice when your writing gets reinforced by the canon after you come up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 If they do and guns don’t, I think that’d make a big balancing issue, even if mouse and keyboard aims better than controller. "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 The aim assist was so strong on melee weapons compared to guns with a controller that I don’t know if the balance would really be thrown off that much. But I guess we’ll see. It's always nice when your writing gets reinforced by the canon after you come up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Maybe not for kB + M, but for controller users on pc I think it will by a large margin "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 BTW there's been alot of drama in the Elder Scrolls modding community lately, especially with that Skyrim play together mod (whose pateron was making TEN THOUSAND dollars a month from fans) Apparently they stole code from SKSE and a bunch of other sketchy shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Glad I stay away from dumb shit like that anyway. "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 How do you “steal code” from something that is free tho. "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 11 minutes ago, ColonelKillaBee said: How do you “steal code” from something that is free tho. Because it's not free in that sense. You get free use of the mod, but the owners own the right to distribute it. When you download a mod, you don't own it, you just have the right to use it free of charge. You can't modify it unless they state you modified it, and even then you still have to say it's from SKSE. There's alot of legal mumbo jumbo but basically modders still own the mods they create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Oh great, lemme guess they'll be forced to discontinue the mod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: Because it's not free in that sense. You get free use of the mod, but the owners own the right to distribute it. When you download a mod, you don't own it, you just have the right to use it free of charge. You can't modify it unless they state you modified it, and even then you still have to say it's from SKSE. There's alot of legal mumbo jumbo but basically modders still own the mods they create. I need to see where it says they own anything at all, because I’m fairly certain the only people that own any aspect of the game is Bethesda, including mods. "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, TheCzarsHussar said: Oh great, lemme guess they'll be forced to discontinue the mod? Good, last thing I want is Bethesda seeing that and trying to make TES 6 multiplayer. Damage might be done already tho if they’re aware of the money already made off of it, and I’m sure they are. Edited May 1, 2019 by ColonelKillaBee "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, ColonelKillaBee said: I need to see where it says they own anything at all, because I’m fairly certain the only people that own any aspect of the game is Bethesda, including mods. "Each Game Mod is owned by the developer of the Game Mod, subject to the licenses granted by the developer to ZeniMax as set forth in the Editor EULA." https://bethesda.net/en/document/terms-of-service Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, ColonelKillaBee said: Good, last thing I want is Bethesda seeing that and trying to make TES 6 multiplayer. Damage might be some already tho if they’re aware of the money already made off of it, and I’m sure they are. https://www.patreon.com/skyrimtogether Alot of idiots still donating despite the fact it's all tumbling down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, ColonelKillaBee said: I need to see where it says they own anything at all, because I’m fairly certain the only people that own any aspect of the game is Bethesda, including mods. Yeah, it strikes me as somewhat entitled to bitch about someone using shit that you developed using a creation kit. It’s like you build a castle out of LEGOs and then get pissed because someone else sees it and builds an identical one. 1 It's always nice when your writing gets reinforced by the canon after you come up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 Just now, The Good Doctor said: Yeah, it strikes me as somewhat entitled to bitch about someone using shit that you developed using a creation kit. It’s like you build a castle out of LEGOs and then get pissed because someone else sees it and builds an identical one. No it's taking your Lego bits from your castle , shoving them onto there castle and claiming it's their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Just now, BigBossBalrog said: No it's taking your Lego bits from your castle , shoving them onto there castle and claiming it's their own. Did they lose their resources because someone else copied them? It's always nice when your writing gets reinforced by the canon after you come up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 Just now, The Good Doctor said: Did they lose their resources because someone else copied them? They didn't recreate the source code. They literally cut it out of SKSE, said it was their own (without saying were it was from), and acted like they did nothing wrong when caught, do you think that's okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: "Each Game Mod is owned by the developer of the Game Mod, subject to the licenses granted by the developer to ZeniMax as set forth in the Editor EULA." https://bethesda.net/en/document/terms-of-service You further grant each user of the Services a non-exclusive license to access UGC and to use, reproduce, distribute, display and perform such UGC as permitted through the Services, including, but not limited to, Game functionality. "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 ^I.E. you own it, as in Zenimax cannot use your mods to profit off of it, but that isn’t stopping me from taking your user generated content and modifying it, making it mine. And since you’re not allowed to profit from it anyway, you’d have no legal ground to stand on. Its user generated content, it’s open season for anyone that wants it. Is it shitty, a little shady, sure but all you can do is complain about it. "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Bottom line, if I’m allowed to download user generated content, and it’s non profit, I can do anything I want to it. Donations are donations, so that’s irrelevant as well. "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 A modder sued someone from using their stuff in a video showcase, and they eventually settled out of court for it. There's a legal precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 A better analogy for this would be artists using visual references from pictures and even other artists in their own work, which is also perfectly legal. People call them out on it all the time mainly when it’s done so lazily, like with TES legends but it’s still legal "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: A modder sued someone from using their stuff in a video showcase, and they eventually settled out of court for it. There's a legal precedent. Show me "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 1 minute ago, ColonelKillaBee said: Show me Long story short, a woman made a mod called the Floating Market, someone reviewed it, she didn't like that, and filed a lawsuit over it. If you want the long version watch this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelKillaBee Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Even if there is, that little excerpt from the terms of service I posted, and the ones I didn’t but you can read for yourself makes it clear user generated content is open season for users and user creators, so long as they’re not profiting off of it "Even the hardest dick must go flaccid." -Colonelkillabee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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