Roleplayer's Off Topic Thread #39

[ColonelKillaBee]

You know, I could stream the thing

[The Good Doctor]

2 minutes ago, ColonelKillaBee said:

1982 I hope 

Of course. 

[Elden Clown]

6 hours ago, Centurion said:

@The Good Doctor so I’m giving the outer worlds another shot. The last time I played it was back in 2020 so I don’t remember basically anything, but do remember the main quest in the emerald vale where you have to choose between edge water and the deserters. And I just discovered that there’s a third option. You can turn off the power to the botanical gardens and convince reed to step down, allowing mcdevitt to take over edge water. And you can convince reed to step down either by persuading or letting him know that she knows how to grow plants (but she’s using human corpses to do so) Lmaoo. Man, I miss obsidian and their ability to make things interesting.

Actually got the spacers choice edition not to long ago myself and am also replaying it for the second time. I completely missed the third option both times, damn. Doc is right though, i'm early into the first dlc and has already been some of the best content so far. 
You using any companions?

[TheCzarsHussar]

4 hours ago, ColonelKillaBee said:

You know, I could stream the thing

I'd be down, the only version that's on Netflix is the shitty 2011 prequel. Which as I told Doc, disguises itself as the 82 film to trick you into clicking on it

[Elden Clown]

Really could have done without this nightmare fuel of an npc in the Outer Worlds dlc. 

 

Edited July 30, 2023 by Elden Clown

[The Good Doctor]

@Celan

The ending of White March is so satisfying if you manage to repair the Dwarven cannons and make peace with all the factions!  

It was awesome having Stalwart, the ogres, and the Readcerans all working together to storm the Eyeless, especially with the Iron Flail’s siege equipment and the artillery barrages from the White Forge. Reminds me of how you can get all the Mojave tribes to join you at Hoover Dam in New Vegas, just a big epic culmination of everything you’ve done so far.

It’s also helpful. The Eyeless are tough as hell.

[Elden Clown]

Lack of sleep is fun. 
Any of ya on here like racing or cars in general? Got a big love for Rally myself. 

[TheCzarsHussar]

You know what's a shame?

In Halo 3, during the Cortana mission, you were originally going to fight through the Mausoleum of the Arbiter. Battling all the past arbiters flood infected forms.

But it was cut

[Elden Clown]

1 hour ago, TheCzarsHussar said:

You know what's a shame?

In Halo 3, during the Cortana mission, you were originally going to fight through the Mausoleum of the Arbiter. Battling all the past arbiters flood infected forms.

But it was cut

I swear with the amount of cut content some games have they could be their own games to a degree.

[TheCzarsHussar]

Spends twenty minutes very carefully clearing out every single Flood enemy after rescuing Cortana.

Blows up the three reactors.

For literally no reason, an invisible explosion throws me off the SAFE CENTRAL PLATFROM and I die.

Has anyone had the game hate them so much as to literally cheat and just throw the player to their deaths just because? Lmao, fuck Halo 3 legendary 

[The Good Doctor]

6 hours ago, Elden Clown said:

Lack of sleep is fun. 
Any of ya on here like racing or cars in general? Got a big love for Rally myself. 

I work with a guy who used to do a lot of racing, so we talk about it sometimes to pass the time, but it’s not in my wheelhouse, personally. Never had much interest in cars. 

4 hours ago, TheCzarsHussar said:

cheat and just throw the player to their deaths just because?

Crazy physics flinging you a mile off the map are a feature of Halo, not a bug.  

Having the Mausoleum of the Arbitor in the Cortana level could’ve turned the worst Halo mission into one or the best. That’s such a cool idea. 

[Centurion]

So I’ll say for the outer worlds, and keep in mind I’ve only just finished the Edgewater quests, I love the in depth story telling and variables obsidian puts into their games and quests. The multiple ways to do things and the secret paths you can take is great. But, and it’s a big but, I have never been so fucking bored playing a game I want to have fun with. Idk what’s wrong with it or me, but damn it feels like a drag

[The Good Doctor]

8 hours ago, Centurion said:

So I’ll say for the outer worlds, and keep in mind I’ve only just finished the Edgewater quests, I love the in depth story telling and variables obsidian puts into their games and quests. The multiple ways to do things and the secret paths you can take is great. But, and it’s a big but, I have never been so fucking bored playing a game I want to have fun with. Idk what’s wrong with it or me, but damn it feels like a drag

I feel ya. While I don’t find TOW boring, I think it’s the least interesting world Obsidian has crafted. The only factions I find notably cool or likable are Groundbreaker, SubLight, and the MSI, but none of them can make a big splash in the main quest. So the mechanical depth and solid RPG mechanics have to do a lot of heavy lifting.

The combat was decent, but the enemy variety was so low that it got repetitive pretty quick. For me, one of the most fun things in the game was the dialogue, which there’s a lot of, thankfully.

 

The story was well-written, but bizarrely black-and-white. Was disappointing to find it boiled down to "corporations evil, science man good". But the DLCs did a much better job of this, I feel. So did the minor questlines in Edgewater and Monarch, for that matter. 

[ColonelKillaBee]

Shoutout to @Celan for getting me to pay attention to Jordan Peterson lol, can't say I'm a fan yet but he knows what he's talking about more times than not I'd say.

Especially interesting to me and a convo me n the boys had is the women and pornography section of this video xD
 

32:12, look at what he says is the fifth most popular role of male women love in fantasy writing xD  Get fucked @TheCzarsHussar @BigBossBalrog

[ColonelKillaBee]

17 hours ago, TheCzarsHussar said:

I'd be down, the only version that's on Netflix is the shitty 2011 prequel. Which as I told Doc, disguises itself as the 82 film to trick you into clicking on it

The Thing. 1982 : john carpenter : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

[ColonelKillaBee]

@Celan I am also gonna admit that I was wrong in our discussion about True Detective and the King in Yellow. Or, not that I was "wrong" but that I've changed my outlook on what the director of true detective said about his borrowing from the Lovecraftian themes in relation to the Yellow King.

I've reread the King in Yellow in its entirety, and concluded that 1. it was never really meant to be "cosmic horror" and 2. Robert W. Chambers himself also "borrowed" cosmic horror themes to add flavor to his story, same as Pizzolatto did in True Detective.

The King in Yellow's collection of stories mostly have nothing to do with lovecraftian elements. About the only thing that's actually "lovecraftian" is that they all read this play, the king in yellow, and are affected by it in one way or another. It does have a similarity to the Necronomicon. In that people who read the Necronomicon are forever changed as well and usually for the worst. But the king in yellow's effects aren't quite as dramatic. Some go mad, others become obsessed with change and revolution. And thats what I focused on when I read it the first time.

However, now that I've read it again, there's actually very little focus on that. For instance there's a short story about a lover wearing a mask (its the infamous 'No Mask!' line which everyone focuses on) and they basically become that identity, and they end up outliving the husband and taking over the estate to be with the wife. TLDR the focus on the yellow king, to me, isnt about the idea of the book influencing anyone supernaturally, or because of forbidden secrets. 

To me its just a cautionary tale about the effects of literature, and its power to influence people. There is another short story where you're literally transported to Carcosa and see the yellow king himself, but its at the end to mirror the poem about carcossa at the beginning, and again while this is cool and likely has more hidden meaning, I believe that both are the "cover", and the actual meaning, the meat and potatoes of what Chambers wrote, was much more down to earth.

Just like True Detective was.

So all in all I think Pizzolatto did the right thing in how he presented these elements, and also was fine to state that the lovecraftian stuff he borrowed, i.e. the cosmic horror seasoning was just that, and not real. It was the same with Chambers who got adopted into the Cthulhu Mythos because of the atmosphere surrounding the Yellow Sign and the King in Yellow play, but isn't actually cosmic horror.

TLDR I can watch the show again lol

[Celan]

I don't remember what we argued about. Maybe that I thought it was fine that the Yellow King wasn't "real real" and the themes were more about human good vs. evil?

Still love True Detective s1. I re-watch it periodically. Rustin Cohle is the best on-screen depiction of an INTP I've seen, albeit one who's been affected by deep and chronic trauma.

[ColonelKillaBee]

1 hour ago, Celan said:

I don't remember what we argued about. Maybe that I thought it was fine that the Yellow King wasn't "real real" and the themes were more about human good vs. evil?

Still love True Detective s1. I re-watch it periodically. Rustin Cohle is the best on-screen depiction of an INTP I've seen, albeit one who's been affected by deep and chronic trauma.

That it wasnt real I feel like most people understood, even Balrog lmao. We didn't really have a point to prove in our arguing, it was just that I gated that the creator said factually that it wasnt real, and just there to add pizzazz basically. 

That's essentially what Chambers did as well. The yellow king seems to be real though at least in the short story but for all we know, that short story is the play. Its not really clear but I think its likely.

That's what I didn't like, that this was confirmed to not be real. But reading it over again I feel like the grounded aspect is 80 percent of the content and most people focus on the 20, at most, that isn't. Honestly that much is even kinda generous. 

Same goes with True Detective tbh, its a very grounded story just told in a unique way.

[Elden Clown]

6 hours ago, Centurion said:

So I’ll say for the outer worlds, and keep in mind I’ve only just finished the Edgewater quests, I love the in depth story telling and variables obsidian puts into their games and quests. The multiple ways to do things and the secret paths you can take is great. But, and it’s a big but, I have never been so fucking bored playing a game I want to have fun with. Idk what’s wrong with it or me, but damn it feels like a drag

I'm a bit further but i'm kind of feeling this as well. I don't know if it's the lack of enemy types, how little gun variety there is or what but I've started to find myself being lost in what to do simply from being overwhelmed in quests and bordem. 

[Celan]

1 hour ago, ColonelKillaBee said:

That it wasnt real I feel like most people understood, even Balrog lmao. We didn't really have a point to prove in our arguing, it was just that I gated that the creator said factually that it wasnt real, and just there to add pizzazz basically. 

That's essentially what Chambers did as well. The yellow king seems to be real though at least in the short story but for all we know, that short story is the play. Its not really clear but I think its likely.

That's what I didn't like, that this was confirmed to not be real. But reading it over again I feel like the grounded aspect is 80 percent of the content and most people focus on the 20, at most, that isn't. Honestly that much is even kinda generous. 

Same goes with True Detective tbh, its a very grounded story just told in a unique way.

Well I think the idea of symbology and generational curses is pretty deep, even if it is just psychology and not cosmology.

Shame that s2 and 3 were so lackluster in comparison to the first season.

[BigBossBalrog]

The God Emperor wills it 

 

[The Good Doctor]

55 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said:

The God Emperor wills it 

 

"He who controls the theaters controls the industry."

-Muad'Dib

[BigBossBalrog]

1 minute ago, The Good Doctor said:

"He who controls the theaters controls the industry."

-Muad'Dib

I think it's pretty funny and crazy how much Imax is causing so much drama 

[ColonelKillaBee]

2 hours ago, Celan said:

Well I think the idea of symbology and generational curses is pretty deep, even if it is just psychology and not cosmology.

Shame that s2 and 3 were so lackluster in comparison to the first season.

Yea even the bible speaks of generational curses and not always in a mystical way.

[The Good Doctor]

12 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said:

I think it's pretty funny and crazy how much Imax is causing so much drama 

They’re probably just playing it smart. Dune is practically made for Imax, and way more likely to draw crowds to that medium than the freaking Marvels.