Celan Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 Alright. If this thread dies, it dies, but you gents are talking politics in PM's that I'm not in and I won't have it. My first submission: Why having a diaper-swaddled President isn't our only problem 2 Quote "If you know me you know I don't keep up with the times. I just go with the flow." - Woody Copeland, life coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted June 8 Share Posted June 8 2 hours ago, Celan said: My first submission: Why having a diaper-swaddled President isn't our only problem She’s the reason I hope he lives at least another five years. Quote * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celan Posted June 9 Author Share Posted June 9 1 hour ago, The Good Doctor said: She’s the reason I hope he lives at least another five years. The irony here is that Joe Biden played the same role for Obama. They find the dumbest, most incompetent person in the country to make the President sound articulate in comparison. Quote "If you know me you know I don't keep up with the times. I just go with the flow." - Woody Copeland, life coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celan Posted June 9 Author Share Posted June 9 6 minutes ago, ColonelKillaBee said: Too bad she can’t save scum for these speech checks The question I have is, if she dumped Speech, what skill did she put those stats in? Cuz I'm not seein it. Quote "If you know me you know I don't keep up with the times. I just go with the flow." - Woody Copeland, life coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 16 minutes ago, ColonelKillaBee said: Today I learned, from Putin no less, that Canadians gave Ukrainians a platform to celebrate an SS soldier and nazism @BigBossBalrog explain yourself Are you really surprised when our glorious overlord was caught wearing black face 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 9 minutes ago, Celan said: The question I have is, if she dumped Speech, what skill did she put those stats in? Cuz I'm not seein it. Luck is her highest SPECIAL, for sure. Quote * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 To give some background; there's a really hardcore group of soldiers (though maybe butcher's is a better word) part of the Ukrainian army. They're also crazy Neo-Nazi's They didn't check this dude's background, just looking at the fact he was a decorated soldier Like I explained to Doc, I grew up in a neighborhood were a ton of my school buddies were second generation Ukrainians. Canada has a huge population of them, even before we start taking refugee's in; because before World War 1, when we we're trying to settle the great plains, Ukrainians (and other slavic people) were giving huge incentives to do so, by the government, because in the British racial (and racist) ecology, Slavs were considered the ideal farmers. So it's not that weird the PM is trying to win support from that huge population by decorating vets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 3 minutes ago, ColonelKillaBee said: That Putin was actually right about this and made a huge point that is never mentioned or talked about here is so fascinating to me lol, shouldnt be surprising at all but its so crazy to hear this when Biden's been sucking off Ukrainians for years. I know why, their Ukrainian business but still, its wild to hear Neo Nazis peppered on top of it To be fair, Russian (and the Russian military) also has a huge problem with Neo-Nazism. It's like calling the kettle black Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 5 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: They didn't check this dude's background, just looking at the fact he was a decorated soldier You know, it really should be the barest minimum to know which side of a conflict a soldier received his decorations from. Quote * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Just now, BigBossBalrog said: To be fair, Russian (and the Russian military) also has a huge problem with Neo-Nazism. It's like calling the kettle black Not to a comparable extent. Culturally, Russia really hates Nazis (for obviously reasons) and their government straight outlawed Neo-Nazi groups or the use of their symbols. They even brought motions to the UN to help combat their spread in the east back when Obama was president. Doesn’t stop Nazis from existing, of course, but compared to Ukraine, or much of Europe for that matter, this is one area where they really do have some high ground to stand on. Quote * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 5 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: Not to a comparable extent. Culturally, Russia really hates Nazis (for obviously reasons) and their government straight outlawed Neo-Nazi groups or the use of their symbols. They even brought motions to the UN to help combat their spread in the east back when Obama was president. Doesn’t stop Nazis from existing, of course, but compared to Ukraine, or much of Europe for that matter, this is one area where they really do have some high ground to stand on. None of that shit is enforced The Wagner group (which might as well be an official branch of the Russian military now) openly sports all kinds of Nazi Imagery in photos and group parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celan Posted June 9 Author Share Posted June 9 This is in DC this week. Look at this group of young scholars. Quote "If you know me you know I don't keep up with the times. I just go with the flow." - Woody Copeland, life coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 13 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: None of that shit is enforced The Wagner group (which might as well be an official branch of the Russian military now) openly sports all kinds of Nazi Imagery in photos and group parties. Impossible to know or say how it’s being enforced in Russia considering how much of a reliable information black hole the country is to the West right now. But in years past, it was pretty common knowledge that they took a much harder stance on Nazism than most other countries. Their role in WW2 is still a major point of national pride for them. Members of the Wagner Group do, but they are a special case. They are openly some of Russia’s worst (literally, they recruited from prisons) and only were raised to their current position for the purpose of fighting in ongoing wars. They are not a political or civilian element. Quote * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 3 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: Impossible to know or say how it’s being enforced in Russia considering how much of a reliable information black hole the country is to the West right now. But in years past, it was pretty common knowledge that they took a much harder stance on Nazism than most other countries. Their role in WW2 is still a major point of national pride for them. Members of the Wagner group do, but they are also a special case. They are openly some of Russia’s worst (literally, they recruited from prisons) and only were raised to their current position for the purpose of fighting in ongoing wars. They are not a political or civilian element. I think that's more of a general problem of European (specifically Slavic) countries; of liking/becoming enticed by alot of Hitler's authoritarian measures, and conveniently forgetting the whole "you guys are subhuman", which was official Nazi policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Just now, BigBossBalrog said: I think that's more of a general problem of European (specifically Slavic) countries; of liking/becoming enticed by alot of Hitler's authoritarian measures, and conveniently forgetting the whole "you guys are subhuman", which was official Nazi policy Indeed. I assume that is why it’s popular in Ukraine. My point is that Russia has always been more resistant to it than the others. Burning hatred for Nazism is an even more deeply ingrained part of their history and culture than it is our own. Quote * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 12 minutes ago, Celan said: Look at this group of young scholars. Do you know what monument that is? Quote * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celan Posted June 9 Author Share Posted June 9 3 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: Do you know what monument that is? It's an Andrew Jackson monument near the White House. 1 Quote "If you know me you know I don't keep up with the times. I just go with the flow." - Woody Copeland, life coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 1 minute ago, Celan said: It's an Andrew Jackson monument near the White House. Old Hickory would’ve put a cane to their asses for even trying some shit like that. 1 Quote * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 8 minutes ago, ColonelKillaBee said: Do you seriously honestly believe that the Russians who jail gays dont give the same treatment or worse to Neo Nazis who they hate probably more than anyone lol. Cause I don't buy that. Look up Wagner group Or more telling, look up some of there officers. There writhing in Nazi symbols. Doc has a point; they're the dregs of society being weaponized like marauders, but that doesn't change the fact it makes Putin's claims of de-nazification hollow when he's fielding hordes of Neo-Nazis himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 2 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: it makes Putin's claims of de-nazification hollow when he's fielding hordes of Neo-Nazis himself. Doesn’t the fact that many of them were recruited from prisons indicate that this "denzification" has indeed been going on in Russia? To continue the Putin/Caesar meme, this is kinda like Caesar using the Powder Gangers to strike at NCR despite the fact he hates them and has no interest in letting them be a part of his society. 1 Quote * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 4 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: Doesn’t the fact that many of them were recruited from prisons indicate that this "denzification" has indeed been going on in Russia? To continue the Putin/Caesar meme, this is kinda like Caesar using the Powder Gangers to strike at NCR despite the fact he hates them and has no interest in letting them be a part of his society. Would Caeser have dinner with a Powder Ganger Because Putin used to be a close friend of the Wagner leader (who tried to kill him). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 1 minute ago, BigBossBalrog said: Would Caeser have dinner with a Powder Ganger Caesar keeps Benny in his tent and enjoys bantering with Arcade. He also sends his Frumentarii to "break bread" with factions he intends to backstab. I don't think Caesar would have dinner with just any Powder Ganger, but he definitely would with, say, Samuel Cooke. He’d probably even enjoy his company, even if he opposes his ideals. Quote * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 RIP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Just now, BigBossBalrog said: RIP This is extra fitting considering that I reckon about 75% of my Diamond Dogs are Russian. 1 Quote * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 My take on it is that there is plenty enough to criticize Russia for without trying to paint them as something they’re not. Their hatred of Nazis relative to much of Europe is a very well-known attribute. 1 Quote * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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