Centurion Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 When the trailer dropped for 76 I was hyped as fuck, then a week later it came out that it was an online fallout with no npcs. Like wtf are y’all doing. The only reason eso is successful is because the stories and lore contributions are amazing otherwise it would have flopped hard, and Beth was like well let’s take that knowledge and throw it out the window. I loved fallout, but I really truly think that I may abandon Bethesda because they keep shooting on their own games Fuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: When you compare there output to FROM, it's clear something was lagging Beth behind. I mean Dark Souls 3, Sekiro and BLOODBORNE. Beth games are waaaay bigger than From games. I have more items in my Windhelm house than you can pick up in all of Dark Souls 3. 1 It's always nice when your writing gets reinforced by the canon after you come up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I was really hyped for Frontier back in 2013-2014 and kept up with it as best I could. But when they started releasing screenshots and videos showing spaceships and super advanced halo level technology, the hype died for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 I second that @Centurion, If you'll summon Balrog for things, Ill put my sign down too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, The Good Doctor said: Beth games are waaaay bigger than From games. I have more items in my Windhelm house than you can pick up in all of Dark Souls 3. Yet there's way more details put in I always found the fact every weapon type has a unique animation and moveset, yet Beth's games basically reuse them for huge groupings to be ridiculous , considering how much money and people Beth has compared to FROM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Centurion said: When the trailer dropped for 76 I was hyped as fuck, then a week later it came out that it was an online fallout with no npcs. Like wtf are y’all doing. Same. The idea of a prequel game set shortly after the war had lots of potential. 2 minutes ago, Centurion said: The only reason eso is successful is because the stories and lore contributions are amazing otherwise it would have flopped hard I wish that were true but unfortunately the vast majority of ESO’s player base couldn’t give two shits about the stories or lore. They skip right through all that. Fact is, by MMO standards, it actually plays really well. I hate MMOs myself and its gameplay doesn’t appeal to me, but most people who like that stuff are in it for that. It's always nice when your writing gets reinforced by the canon after you come up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 1 minute ago, BigBossBalrog said: Yet there's way more details put in I always found the fact every weapon type has a unique animation and moveset, yet Beth's games basically reuse them for huge groupings to be ridiculous , considering how much money and people Beth has compared to FROM. Ironically Ds2 had the most unique weapon movesets. Ds3 has categories with one or two weapons within it to have a unique moveset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: Yet there's way more details put in Not more details. Just different kinds of details. Fromsoft isn’t going to give us a game with 2000 readable books in it or where you can pick up almost every item, or speak with hundreds of NPCs. Their characters and enemies just stand around and don’t have behaviors outside of combat, their days and nights don’t cycle with time. I could go on and on. Bethesda deserves credit where it’s due. They put a lot in their games. More than most developers for sure. It’s just that they drop the ball on some of the really big stuff. That’s not to diss FromSoft. Their games are more focused and that stuff isn’t what they’re aiming for. 1 It's always nice when your writing gets reinforced by the canon after you come up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, TheCzarsHussar said: Ironically Ds2 had the most unique weapon movesets. Ds3 has categories with one or two weapons within it to have a unique moveset. And you know what people do with that variety duel wield ice rapiers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurion Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 @BigBossBalrog @TheCzarsHussar not gonna happen sorry. I don’t even play the games I enjoy anymore 2 Fuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Just now, BigBossBalrog said: And you know what people do with that variety duel wield ice rapiers More the pity to the mad hollows. Ice rapiers are to ds2 what PKCS is to 3. Cancer that was never nerfed enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 7 minutes ago, TheCzarsHussar said: Ironically Ds2 had the most unique weapon movesets. DS2 lets you be Darth Maul. Nuff said. It's always nice when your writing gets reinforced by the canon after you come up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: Not more details. Just different kinds of details. Fromsoft isn’t going to give us a game with 2000 readable books in it or where you can pick up almost every item, or speak with hundreds of NPCs. Their characters and enemies just stand around and don’t have behaviors outside of combat, their days and nights don’t cycle with time. I could go on and on. Bethesda deserves credit where it’s due. They put a lot in their games. More than most developers for sure. It’s just that they drop the ball on some of the really big stuff. That’s not to diss FromSoft. Their games are more focused and that stuff isn’t what they’re aiming for. I was going to change my response; yeah I phrased that wrong. Both devs have a different kind of ethos when it comes to devolopment; FROM is focused on immersive combat, while Beth really likes immersive exploration if that makes sense. And when it comes to world building, which both companies love, Beth does it in the form of thousands of pages of fake books, while FROM does it with thousand of pages of item descriptions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Centurion said: @BigBossBalrog @TheCzarsHussar not gonna happen sorry. I don’t even play the games I enjoy anymore Hopefully when things settle down with your daughter you can game more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Oh shit Jon apparently wrote Contact Harvest and original Halo Bible. Apparently he "re joined" the Halo team just a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 18 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: Oh shit Jon apparently wrote Contact Harvest and original Halo Bible. Apparently he "re joined" the Halo team just a year ago. *Joseph. You had me confused for a minute there. That is good news though. I liked Contact Harvest. It's always nice when your writing gets reinforced by the canon after you come up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 i' I'm seeing them getting compared alot, but In my belief, Frontier dosen't have 1/1000000000th of the charm and soul Hunt Down the Freeman had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 4 hours ago, The Good Doctor said: I liked Contact Harvest. Contact Harvest is honestly one of my favorite Halo books. Of course it doesn't reach Ghosts of Onyx levels but it's top three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 I loved how much it went into depth about Johnson. I've always liked him, but he was basically a caricature in the games. If you guys want a post-war Novel that's standalone from 5's retarded story, read Shadow of Intent. It's by Staten, it's relatively short, and it focuses on Half-Jaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 33 minutes ago, BigBossBalrog said: I loved how much it went into depth about Johnson. I've always liked him, but he was basically a caricature in the games. If you guys want a post-war Novel that's standalone from 5's retarded story, read Shadow of Intent. It's by Staten, it's relatively short, and it focuses on Half-Jaw. The only way I can get back into Halo books is if Infinite doesn't flop hard. Besides skipping over Forerunner books entirely, I read all the way up to Halo 5's release. Yall all know it killed my drive to read modern Halo novels. The last ones I read were Glasslands, Thursday War and Mortal Dictata. Really enjoyed Glasslands and Thursday War but Dictata was only alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, TheCzarsHussar said: The only way I can get back into Halo books is if Infinite doesn't flop hard. Besides skipping over Forerunner books entirely, I read all the way up to Halo 5's release. Yall all know it killed my drive to read modern Halo novels. The last ones I read were Glasslands, Thursday War and Mortal Dictata. Really enjoyed Glasslands and Thursday War but Dictata was only alright. Oh god, I really hated the Kilo Five trilogy But to each there own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Good Doctor Posted January 29, 2021 Author Share Posted January 29, 2021 Ever since they retconned the Forerunners to be a different race from humans, I’ve lost all interest in anything to do with them. It's always nice when your writing gets reinforced by the canon after you come up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, BigBossBalrog said: Oh god, I really hated the Kilo Five trilogy But to each there own. I don't know how much I'd like it if I re-read the trilogy, I kinda want to live on the wave of nostalgia I did re-read Contact Harvest in 2019 and it still holds strong. That reminds me, back when I was in 6th or 7th grade I had to ask permission from my teacher(s?) to read Cole Protocol at school because it had a gun on the cover. They were cool with it though, I don't think it would fly today lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCzarsHussar Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Good Doctor said: Ever since they retconned the Forerunners to be a different race from humans, I’ve lost all interest in anything to do with them. Fucking huge same. They did that around Halo 3 sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBossBalrog Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 Just now, The Good Doctor said: Ever since they retconned the Forerunners to be a different race from humans, I’ve lost all interest in anything to do with them. That wasn't a retcon. It was intended to be the case, but Bungie never confirmed it besides in cut content, and there was enough evidence to go with both possibilities. 343 just choose to make them humanity's sister-race. The Forerunner Trilogy made humanity to be super badass, and the Flood was at it's most terrifying, so I liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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